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    September 12, 2008

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    randy bohlender

    RE: hype

    Increasinly, I've recognized that I have a hard-wired value for understatement. It surfaced when a friend started to tell me "You have to hear this story...it's absolutly hillarious - the best story ever!"

    I interupted him. "Don't tell me that....".

    "Why?"

    "Because now I feel under pressure to think your story is funny. And because now you should feel some pressure to make sure it's funny. Just tell me the dumb story and I'll decide if it's the best story ever. If it is, I'll tell y ou and then it's your listener singing your praises, not you."

    Akward silence.

    "Never mind...it's kind of a dumb story."

    "That's what I thought. So why set me up for disappointment?"

    Seriously, I make it a practice not to preface stories when I'm teaching - I just launch into them. If they're funny, whahoo. If not, at least hopefully they still drove the point home. Of course, if a preacher is just telling the story to be funny, that's a whole 'nother problem. ;-)

    riddle

    great post. i feel these tensions as we're starting Eikon down here in tulsa.
    thanks for the post.

    mark

    David

    I agree with all of those things Scott. You have to find that balance and it is no easy task. Many churches have a challenge with this.

    Jake

    Great post, I needed this.

    I do video announcements for our church (Kevin & susan Fletcher). I have such a strong desire to do them well, yet like you said: authentic. Good stuff here.

    Chris Elrod

    I just forwarded this post to my entire leadership team...because it was off the hook. :-)

    Johnny

    I think that the renewed mind is the key.

    Oh great. Now I'll have that ridiculous tune in my head all day...

    Kris Sorensen

    Great post Scott.

    Joni

    I keep it real by forgetting entire verses of songs I'm leading!

    And I can't believe I fell for the video link -- AGAIN! Stop showing me these people. Flashing back.

    Perry

    Dude, this post is definitely off the hook!!!

    Anna

    After watching that video, I thanked Jesus for The Orchard, its raw music and lack of tight dress pants. For like an hour.

    Seriously, I love that everything is genuine. Even being 'fresh and authentic' can be fake, but that isn't the case at The Orchard. There is a reality to it that transcends the weekend gathering and reminds me that I'm part of a community and that everyone from the music team to the first timer in the last row is growing in their journey. It rocks.

    Corbett Reeves

    Scott, I forgot to tell you... that song/dance is the audition piece that Tricia and I are going to use. Is that a problem???

    Ted

    I need to check out The Orchard. It sounds "off the chain" awesome!

    Seems like you guy's are all in "process" (thanks MJ) :-).

    Mike Adams

    I'm right with you on these issues Scott. Thanks for the continued inspiration, and by the way. The Renewed Mind song brought tears to my eyes. No really it did.
    (That's not necessarily a good thing)

    Blessings!

    Mike

    Randy Mellichamp

    I agree with your statements here. I have listened to some of your sermons and been watching the Orchard website for some time. It is a collection of people who are trying to put their best forward without taking their personalities out of it.

    I believe that if we as other churches are to pattern ourselves to do the same thing, it has to start from the pulpit. The pastor, teacher, or speaker (whatever term your denomination may use) has to be transparent. I know that it is painful and seems to begin more issues for people who are not used to that kind of conversational speaking, but in the long term, it pays huge dividends in relationships and providing a personal touch to groups of people, whether large or small.

    One problem I did have with this post. Did you have to go right to the Southern Baptist Preachers? Well, ok, we do have more than a few that seem to talk that way. Pray for the next generation. We're trying to change that.

    Randy

    Anonymous

    Have to go anonymous on this one... because my pastor reads your blog.

    I have heard the last 4 or 5 series introduced as "life-changing" that "you won't want to miss a week" because it will "impact your entire life". Unfortunately, it has all been, for the most part, more of the same.

    I understand that we want people to be there because we have something that's important to share, but none of these series, except for one (in my opinion), have even come close to meeting the hype.

    Mike

    I think every series at The Orchard is "life-changing" otherwise why would we do them?

    BTW, I'm totally throwing in some of those dance moves this weekend!

    As an added bonus, we've added some of the other songs they have on that site to our repertoire :)

    Holly

    You asked, "Is this a challenge for you?" "What do you do?"

    It is not a challenge for me or others at my church. But it use to be. It use to be a challenge because I felt the Pastor was not necessarily authentic. I think he wanted to be and tried to be but he was more concerned about "presentation" and what others thought.

    My husband is the worship leader (to use Christian terms) and he struggled so much with this because he is so honest and what you see it what you get.

    Now that the new Pastor is the same way (nothing flashy), it takes very little effort for EVERYONE to be real. To be honest. To be open. To be vulnerable.

    It's so important for the leaders and staff of the church to be honestly real so they model for others that God loves real people. He loves real, broken, imperfect people!

    Oh and I was cracking up at the person's comment who said they keep it real by forgetting entire verses of songs he's leading. That sounds like random stuff my husband would do...well not entire verses. He is so picky about songs he chooses because the lyrics are so important to him. Choosing songs that don't always have christianese in them is important to him. Doing a U2 song because it's real and honest is important to him. Singing, "Why do I freak out? God knows what I need" is something I would actually SAY. So why wouldn't I love singing that?

    So how do you be authentic? Um, by just being your honest darned self!

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