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    May 28, 2008

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    anne jackson

    this is must be what it felt like when i accidentally un-followed you on twitter. ::wipes tear:: :)

    Alastair

    I think your most important point is #11.

    Jason Gordon

    Scott...
    great post. I got a note from a student struggling with this very thing this morning. How do we balance the "in not of" thing. Answer...the Church creates culture.

    J.C. Thompson

    excellent post! If you have a breakthrough on the church defining culture let me know and I'll do the same for you. I will be on your doorstep with work boots and energy if you can find that out.

    Keep it up!

    Chris

    Great ideas! I'll second the magazine subscription point. One that has become a not-to-miss for me is Entertainment Weekly and their website - www.ew.com

    Mark Rampulla

    I agree and I'm believing for your very last sentence!

    travis Spencer

    I always try to see the top five of the week. Most newspapers list this stuff. Top 5 albums, songs, movies, DVD rentals, and concert tours. Gives us a good idea of what people are watching and listening to.

    Great post.

    Peter Carino

    Scott,
    Great stuff here! I am another guy in his 40's and while I've always been a techno-geek (I cut my teeth on an Apple II back in the day) and I blog and twitter and have a facebook account and read blogs and watch conference webcasts I still find it hard to keep up with certain aspects of culture. I think that we can only do so much via reading books, blogs, etc., but the most effective way to keep connected to youth culture is to be involved in it. I spend a good amount of time at Peet's Coffee getting to know the staff and the regulars. Some are hip and cool and some are not. The point is to be out in the culture and being in conversation with non-church people. That is how one affects culture and plants seeds that will ultimately shape the culture.

    Darrin Johnson

    Great question and great post. I think you are "spot on." It is exciting to see the church starting to see the need for cultural relevence.

    Jonathan Brink

    Scott, you asked "How do we...create culture."

    I would offer that our greatest impact in society has and always will be love. When we love we transcend culture and become instantly relevant. It doesn't require all the books or magazines. It requires relationship with our Father.

    AJ Rinaldi

    "But the church's best days are when we are no longer chasing or imitating culture, but actually shaping it!"
    Excellent! Amen--how do you shape culture (as the Church)?—by reaching individuals within the culture; one person at a time. That’s the job of every one of us…

    Jenni Catron

    Great post Scott!

    Joni

    I couldn't believe how much I had fallen out of touch with current culture until I started hanging out in blogworld. Having a part-time job where my co-workers are 19-23 yrs old is a HUGE help too. So I'm kind of getting the hang of it although I'm still nerdlike.

    As an encouragement to creative churches I have to say having done programming for around 15 years, I notice some of what is happening in music now(videos, stage performances, etc)was done first (or dreamed of in budget meetings) by a couple of innovative churches that had no worldwide exposure as we do today.(at least I didn't say "back in my day") So arts in the church may have, at one time been ahead of the culture but it certainly wasn't widespread nor influential.

    Rich Kirkpatrick

    Creating culture! Indeed.

    The church might someday regain that stature. Thanks for you post about this.

    Tom Rawls

    Awesome post Scott,

    Good advice to one of us oldies. I am 51 and pastor a church full of Millennials. You can imagine my playing catchup. LOL

    Actually I'm loving it - the creativity, the imagination and the fun! We started 3 years ago with a 100 people [including about 15 university strudents] and today we're 600 [more than half under 30!] and it is just so dynamic. I love my church.

    My associate pastor is 24 - my other associate is a medical doctor - 1st year and they are both outstanding communicators. They lead alongside of me in our church. There is no contest they are the best and god is using them powerfully in our church. We are cultural Architect absolutely - we are creating a culture so powerful people are coming to Christ every week!

    My secret has been to just be ME full of the Holy Spirit. You're right this generation can sniff out a fake a mile away. I love my team - also mostly Millennials - we are so enjoying building with Christ. Our church is truly a 21st Century church in ancient England.

    Love your blogg and read it regularly, this is my first "left comment". I know Alan Hirsch too - we're both Aussies from Melbourne; though I am now living in the UK!

    Great work Scott - go for it.

    Tom Rawls
    Senior Leader
    Proclaimers - Norwich, UK
    www.proclaimerschurch.com

    pollyh

    Your subscribe to me seems to be sick!

    Johnny Laird

    Great post, Scott! Really interesting stuff. The thing I’ve been rolling around in my head, though, is so much of the stuff you mention is such familiar territory to me - kinda my lingua franca, if you will: stuff that stimulates me, excites me, encourages me and forms the basis of much of my thought about BEING Church…. BUT, if I transplant it to my local Church situation, does it get lost in translation for those who I spend my waking days with, off of the cyber-grid I spend so much of my existence hooked in to?

    Am I an early adopter because I read the blogs and the mags…and the books, or am I inhabiting a world that it foreign those folks I serve & minister with and to?

    This is not in any way meant as a criticism of your post, but rather I’m just rolling out a little bit of self analysis it has stimulated.

    I’m going to answer my own questions to a degree, with the upbeat conclusion that all this stuff DOES help me, because – at least in my own little world – people are sharing the stuff, networking, breaking down denominational and cultural barriers, learning from each other’s experiences…the list goes on.

    Keep it going, Scott! Really appreciate all the great posts on your blog, bro’.

    Peace & blessings

    J

    Marla Saunders

    Wow - best post all week, for sure. Great job, Scott.

    One suggestion:
    Read the book Jim and Casper go to church by Jim Henderson and Matt Casper. Matt is an atheist who goes on a journey to "critique" churches with Jim, a former pastor. Must-read for anyone hanging out in church world.

    heather E.

    Great input! I liked #11...to be yourself and shape culture. Very awesome!

    The Church Bartender

    Scott,

    Nice job bridging the generations. The final reminder to be yourself was perfect to seal the list.

    This was not sent from an iPhone.

    Michael

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