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March 18, 2008

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Brad Ruggles

Right on man...that's a great illustration.

I love the idea of having Scentports in your sanctuary. I've always thought that scents are overlooked in a lot of places. Just think about some of those great stores you walk past in the mall where the scent draws you in.

I think I even read that stores like Hollister and Abercrombie have little fans blowing their perfumes and colognes out the door to lure people in.

Brad Ruggles
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Danny

Great Post, I think that this is one of your best in a while.

I love the practical advice, and remind me once more why I come here everyday.

I love the idea of smells, I will definately be doing that asap.

I am also going to play with the enviroment a little more, I'm going to try to see if I can't make everything just a bit more welcoming.

There's nothing here that I didn't know, but I love how you're practicing it at your church, and thanks for encouraging me to never be happy with where we are

sam

Great post. I laughed my head off.

I had a similar bad experience at Boston Market. It wasn't always so ghetto. It over expanded and killed their brand.

Environment is huge, huge and huge.

If you haven't read "The starbucks experiance" you need to. It is right up your alley.

karl bastian

great post! I am a regular reader and live in Chicagoland, we outta do lunch some day.

Robert Pooley

Hey... thats a great idea... maybe Karl above can take you out to Boston Market.

travis Spencer

great thoughts.

Here's a few other ideas:
Color is important. White wall can look lie a hospital.

Good furniture. Metal chairs and folding tables is no the best option. We bought high pub tables for out lobby.

Good signage. People want to know where stff is without having to ask.

we

> i heard my ceo say one time, "the experience that the customer has is more important than the products and services that we produce." wow, what a thought!

> consider the wide spectrum of business, organizations, churches ,etc... as it pertains to its culture. culture has a lot to do with its brand and how others, more specifically the customer, "perceives" the brand.

> lets take a couple of biggies that i believe many miss, especially in churches, under the guy's of, "jesus loves everyone; therefore, we don't want the staff (doesn't have to just be paid) to be offended if we point these things out"...but you must! why? well, in reaching the type of people (aka customer) that you want to reach, you have to first understand the culture and how to effectively reach that culture. indelibly it is imperative to send the right message.

we, part 2

> 2 biggies: 1.) how are we dressed? are we representing the culture wherewith we are reaching? while i'm not opposed to someone wearing a suit/ or on the other end of the spectrum wearing jeans and a buckle shirt. the question we must ask is, "is my dress congruent with the branding of my organization?" b/c what we wear sends a message, whether we agree with it or not...you may say, "yes, but god looks at the heart and man looks at the outward appearance." right, and we seemingly always capitalize on the former, rather than latter part of this verse. while we are not trying to be "relevant" with our dress for the sake of relevance, we are doing it with "purpose" and intent, not throwing away the central message of our organization.

> another biggy is the appearance of the organization. how many of us have had the same exeprience above? all of us! by the mere messiness of the place, it sent a message. probably not the right message. probably not the branding message that boston market would admittedly own.

> in gist, how an organization "looks" and how we in the organization are "dressed" is all part of the core, your brand.

> it is imperative for the organizations to be very clear and consistent on this message!

> when was the last time you went into an apple store and saw a debacle of a mess in the corner or pieces of scrap paper laying around the floor? never! why, b/c i believe in their mind, the sleekness of the apple store environment would be degraded if things were disorganized. it would ruin peoples exeprience! and more importantly the brand!

Dave Casey

We have an incredible welcoming feel at the Orchard. I have always felt it even when I was new.
Having people feel comfortable is very important. If their guards are up then they will be less likely to return and start or continue on their journey of faith. I love hearing how comfortable people say they feel.

Doug

I just spent a couple of days back at my home church for my grandma's funeral; a presbyterian church in a town of 250.

IT STILL SMELLS THE SAME!!! The flashbacks were amazing.

kathryn

I, too, had a bad experience at a Boston Market. Just the thought of going back there makes me want to hurl.

Great connection to our environments at church!

Iman

That is SO spot on Scott!

Laura (Powell) Harms

Hi Scott! I just sent this to my boss because I felt that it was such a good message on a spiritual level as well as a business level. I've been reading your blog for a while and I get the sense that you treat your church as a business, in a good way, because you want people to come back and you want them to gain something by coming each week. I really love the perspective I get from reading what you have to say!

Jim Larson

Hey Scott, I forwarded your blog to Rick Arras, CEO of Boston Market. He replied that he is very grateful for your challenging comments, and will send you 100 $20 gift certificates for you to give away to your blog readers.

Ok, maybe not, but were you excited?

Anyway, I loved the segue to the false missional-attractional dichotomy. I look forward to a few good posts on that one.

Jim Larson

Oh and one other thing--I'm trying to think about what smells might be attractive to folks in Thailand. Do you think fermented fish sauce might be the ticket? It's a bit hot for coffee.

Terrace Crawford

Great food for thought. Interesting scents. You guys think of everything don't you? That is so cool. BTW, I've always thought the same and experienced the same in Boston Market. I've been expecting them for YEARS to go out of business.

jamey johnson

Scott, are you sure you were not eating at...ahhh, let me not go there...I will call you later! Great post!

jamey johnson

Scott, in 15 years I have known you, I have never seen you where a hat. Just a note: fitted baseball hats (simple logo in the middle of the hat) are the best looking hats for casual outfits - this was given by J&J style magazine

Billy  Kangas

Hey. I heard you were into both God and coffee.

So am I!

I write about coffee here

http://billykangas.blogspot.com

and God here

http://orant.blogspot.com

please let me know what you think!!

Mike

I appreciate your desire to make a welcoming environment. It is key that people feel like they have a place to come and be cared for.

For our gathering silence must play a big part. It is important that people have a sense of the Holy. Fellowship is great outside of the service, but our desire is to bring people into communion with GOD. This is the most important part. When people experience the living GOD they always come back.

Friendships. People must know they are in a place where they are loved and cared for just as they are. This involves contact, communication and involvement. Nothing is worse than a handshake Sunday morning then everyone ignoring you.

Coffee is great if it works. To me it is something so 1990’s. Most young people are not into the coffee thing any more. If we desire a cup we hit the local coffee shops. The conversations can be overheard by our non Christian friends. It is about being out in the world, not trying to bring people to us.

There is no perfect answer here. Christ is working in all Churches.

Joni

The second we walked into the Orchard for the first time, I exhaled and knew we were home. It IS the friendliest church I've ever been to/been a part of. And the cool thing is that the welcome teams actually ARE interested in welcoming people. Not just putting on a good face. And thank you for the good smells. Because there IS a church smell out there. Its an old smell that reminds me of blue country decor with flowers, geese and baskets and dark paneling.

jr

what if instead of trying to create environments where defenses could get torn down we actually incarnated into the world of those who have the defenses in the first place? Missional/incarnational is different than attractional by design!

Chuckk Gerwig

boston market! great stuff and many churches seem to be the purveyor of cold leftovers in a chilly atmosphere or neglect too

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