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    June 13, 2007

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    Larry Boatright

    This is probably the best/most important blog post I've read you write...

    I'm going to print this out and give it some of my key leadership to help them understand some of what we've been talking about (simplicity) in my ministry area...

    Thanks for wording what I've been thinking and couldn't have worded so well... and if I were a volunteer at your church this would really help me to see your heart and what you're looking for as the church grows and moves forward.

    Blessings!

    Chris Baker

    Thanks Scott for sharing this.

    Been really dealing with this on a personal level as well. I'm not in any sort of leadership at church or have the option of moving a church in this direction. But its so often true, I see it first hand. We settle for the "Lets do everything" attitude but it doesn't really define the church and what there about, or even where they want to go. I think often times we need to make this a priority in our lives as well. To often do we get wrapped up in all the extra stuff of life. Some things are unavoidable of course. Once again thanks for sharing. I found this quote over at http://despair.com/ - "Mediocrity" - "It takes a lot less time and most people won't notice the difference until it's too late." (This is under the picture of the leaning tower of Pisa". As funny as this is...its so true. We settle for second best, the mediocrity - personally, and as a church. Its great to see you have this vision and desire to be Simple, and strive to be Excellent.

    Scott Jones

    This is such great stuff, thanks Scott. It is easy in ministry to start focusing on programming and coordination that we can easily lose sight of the mission, reaching people. I have been the king of complexity and this is such a reminder to simplify and stay focused on the people.

    A thought that I had after reading this is; why do we work so hard to move away form simplicity? I believe one reason we complicate the mission is for self-gratification and to gain recognition, I am so guilty of this. Simplicity could defend our motives and prevent the mission from being over taken by our self-centered nature and desires to succeed.

    Maybe not good ones, but they are my thoughts.

    Doug

    Simplicity is one of the things that I love most about The Orchard.

    Early in my ministry experience, I was taught "see the need, meet the need", and also that if I had an idea for a "program" that obviously God was placing this idea on my heart to lead it. As a people pleaser, it didn't take me long to get "burned out" and start hurting people in the process.

    My white "simple" wrist band is still on the gear shift of my truck.........

    michael

    Complexity is often synomous with mediocrity.

    I think clarity and consistency are related, and when someone (me) is struggling, I like to to determine what they are getting from God's word.

    What is the basic theme of your devotion right now and how does that move into your daily life.

    We need one single thought to keep in focus and maintain movement forward.

    allen

    One thing I like to do is combine good things into fewer organizational structures. If someone has a new idea, I make sure to think about whether that idea represents a whole new ministry or is it really a subset of another ministry?

    One example... instead of having small groups AND women's ministry AND men's ministry, let's just have small groups. Women or men from a small group (or from several small groups) can get together for study, fun, or service without having to build separate organizations around adults AND women AND men.

    Joni Ruhs

    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!!!!!
    I used to think my church should have this ministry for me and that ministry for me and blah blah blah. My entire social structure became all church people. Not neighbors or outside interests. Kind of territorial. I've seen the light!!!!! How cool is it to get to utilize an outside ministry or program that is already in place and led well to develop community across the body of Christ. It then becomes less about the church you attend and more about Jesus don't you think?

    Billy Chia

    Is it even possible to do things "outside the Church?" It seems good to remind people that if they do it the Church is doing it because they are the Church. Things can and should be done outside the church. You don't need the seal of approval from the church to be the Church.

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