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April 25, 2007

Q: Andy Crouch & Rick Warren

My brain bandwidth is maxed out…  There’s only so much a person can download in one day.  But man, good stuff! 

Here’s a quick snippet of a few words recorded in my handy dandy Moleskine journal.

Andy Crouch
www.culture-makers.com

The church is called to maintain a posture of cultivating (Gen. 2:15) and creating (Gen. 2:19).

Instead, we have made our posture one of condemning, critiquing, copying and consuming.  Each of these are appropriate and often necessary but should remain GESTURES – not become our overall posture.

There is a pattern to how culture is created:

3 core, 12 committed, 120 community

Questions:

What are you cultivating?
What are you creating?
Who are your co-creators?

Rick Warren
www.saddleback.org

Changing our culture…

It’s not about innovation – it’s about incarnation.
It’s not about strategy – it’s about service.
It’s not programmatic – it’s personal.

Keys to changing culture: humility, integrity, generosity, civility, clarity/simplicity

Humility is not about denying our strengths, it’s about admitting our weaknesses.

Most churches would rather be cute (creative) than effective.

You cannot predict the future, but we can know that the world will change at a more rapid pace.  So instead of looking at what will be different, let’s look at what will never change and build our ministries on that.

Simple doesn't mean shallow - it means understandable. 

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Comments

THANKS, Scott!!!!
Man, i've been dying to hear what's up? Love this stuff. Checked out some articles from Fermi Project, unstinkin' believable!!! Cultivalte and Create, our mission for real!!!Keep us posted.

Scott, thanks so much! I was bummed I couldn't make it... but keep the notes coming!

Interesting that Warren made this comments which are the opposite of the church growth paradigm out of which he started his seeker church.

Those were efficiency, annonymity and the absecne of religious symbols (e.g. the emergence of the logo and everything purpose driven).

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